Sat, Nov 21 2009
SEEKING SUPPORT: French president Nicolas Sarkozy, left, received Macedonian prime minister Nikola Gruevski at the Elysee Palace on May 15. Gruevski travelled to Brussels and Paris to lobby for support on Schengen visa exemption and in its name dispute with Greece.

Greece has not accepted the amended ‘Republic of North Macedonia’ usage proposal, while UN mediator Matthew Nimetz is scheduled to hear Skopje’s response on August 20 2009.
Dispute must be resolved by parties themselves, but US is urging a resolution because it would be in everyone’s interest and add another member to the EU, US secretary of state says.
Macedonian president Gjorge Ivanov says that he expects renewed talks after Greece’s European Parliament elections and that Skopje is ready for ‘reasonable compromise’ – but this does not mean a name with a geographical prefix.
'My job is to lead Macedonia into Nato and the EU,' says Macedonia's new president Gjorge Ivanov, pledging good neighbourly relations 'especially with Greece'.
History cannot be rewritten, and it is up to Macedonia to make the choices that will put it on track to be integrated into Nato, the EU, Kostas Karamanlis says.
Under pressure from Brussels on the name issue dispute with Greece, Skopje seeks to re-build relationship with with Sofia.
Parties that governed together in Pristina fall out because of their battle in Kosovo’s local government elections.
Media reports say that the EU will pressure Athens and Skopje to come up with a solution to the Macedonia name dispute by December 7, or Brussels will take a cooler approach to Macedonia’s EU hopes; while a row breaks out in Belgrade after Serbia’s foreign minister takes sides in the dispute.
Russia’s planned humanitarian base in Serbia could hold deeper strategic interests
The IMF has withdrawn its mission, which was due to assess Romania's compliance with the terms of the bailout, and now expects Romania to miss the fiscal deficit target set by the bailout agreement.
Sorry for the mistake. I wanted t say FYROM will lose it's name for Republika of Vardar. We have no choice than to accept it.
Macedonia belongs exclusively to the greek heritage. I finally accepted it. Sorry for any troubles.
Will the real "Prediction" please stand up ? There appear to be more than one of you.....
Sorry for the mistake. I wanted t say FYROM will lose it's name for Republika of Vardar. We have no choice than to accept it.
Macedonia belongs exclusively to the greek heritage. I finally accepted it. Sorry for any troubles.
You are right FYROM will lose it's name and will be called Macedonia!!
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Sorry - I disagree. Sarkozy changes mind all the time, and not just on wives.
The sondages are saying Sarkozy will be re-elected, haha!
But FYROM will explode and disappear after Greece's next VETO, yes I agree with you!!!
Sarkozy will lose the next election!!
His mother is Greek indeed, his father Hungarian. He clearly shows support to Greece and the name issue when he visited Athens a year ago.Also he is strongly against Turkey's accession to EU.
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to Scipio - you have my genuine synpathy. Somebody is messing us both around.
what's gg? do you like wearing g-strings?
to the web master
why did you cut off my post addressed to gg. they werew far more descent that the last
thanks
It's no worse that what is found on my mom's labia majora ! (Comes from too much licking....)
Authentication code: i fancy bum
It's no worse that what is found on GG's labia majora ! (Comes from too much licking....)
Authentication code: wrzeszcz
Is Cornelius the same as the corn-like structures found on faeces?
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to Scipio : OK, fair point. Let's see what xoxo/ she says (hopefully in English !)
Dr Cornelius
I want xoxo to answer my previous post.
no hard feelings
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Is the "Upper East Side" the same as London's East End ? Otherwise I'm a bit lost. Like I am when visiting Cambridge. when in fact Krakow is my alma mater.
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oh way to go Gossip Girl (GG), you blew my cover! Now David knows who I am
Why have you put a cyberspace target on me? Well after 2 years of fun it looks like Game Over
Consider that last bit of info my gift to you D.
How amusing old man, my Aussie flight attender told me to call you "a palmy poufter", and trust me, you don't want a translation.
cheers
PS - what is Skopje? is that one of your other alter egos? And no I'm not greek but just a damsel who went to a really good private school. And oh by the way, if you haven't figure it out already, some of your fellow writers on this site are one and the same person, it didn't take me long to figure it out. Oh but then I guess you're too old to catch the obvious
xoxo
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TO GG
Thanks for the compliment
I understand that we have
a eight oars competion between
Oxford and Cambridge.
By the way you of course you meant Alter ego and not ultra ego in your address to Cornelius.
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to Horsey (GG) - geddit ?
The quality of your input would be immeasurably improved if you learned how to spell properly.
(Or, as the renowned US academic Tom Lehrer put it, "Don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell.) On the other hand, you're probably an Oxford man, in which case all falls into place and there is no need to apologise.
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to Jai - a decoy at Volos, so that's all right then. (But why were military police arresting tourists who took photos, and why were the few military planes outside their hangars apparently US F-16s in Greek livery ?)
Can't say I'm entirely convinced. I've been round enough Warsaw Pact bases in the past to know the difference between a decoy and the real thing.....
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The airfield in Volos is a decoy you idiot
I'm glad you rest your case
Just visit Volos "top-security" Greek military airfield (next to Europe's most primitive civilian airport !) and then form your own judgements. I think I rest my case.
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So it is David eh? Thanks Ahmed and Turkey. Very true, the last person who tried to take pictures of the navy base in Piraeus(which is one of the world's biggest) was court marshaled. Very few people get a chance to see the base and yet some people think they are experts on the military of countries to the south. In any case, we are way off topic, and having angered a Turk I would also advise David/cornelius to return to the topic at hand!
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True about 1913 and the Turkish Fleet - but they beat the Allies at the Dardanelles in 1916, though much of this was due (I understand) to resolute work by the Turkish artillery batteries on-shore. Anyway, the Allied troops carried a healthy respect for "Johnny Turk" ever after.
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Aries - you may well be right, though the Turks do not have a reputation for cowardice in the battlefield (or on the high seas either.) The slight problem would have been if the Turks had won the engagement (not impossible, given how badly the British fleet fared in the Falklands a decade later !)
Newspaper headlines such as "Turkish fleet sinks the Royal Navy" could have brought down a UK government every bit as well as the current MP expenses scandal. Mind you, it would have nipped in the bud the embarrassing "UK investment in Northern Cyprus" story that is still going the rounds....
The turks would have backed up and no naval incident would have ocuured.
Aries - yes, you are right about the Syrian border (I had forgotten) and also about Dr Kissinger too. He apparently stopped the British from intercepting the Turkish invasion fleet too. (Had that interception taken place, it would have been the first Anglo-Turkish naval engagement since Gallipoli in 1916 !)
Turkey has only a pending difference with Syria the
Alexandreta issue.
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to Aries re Turkey. A good question. To which there are two answers (as always !) Western Turkey would play sensible, and try to broker peace. Eastern Turkey would see an opportunity to avenge old scores from 1913, and try to re-establish some of its old Balkan hegemony. Trouble is, that occasionally (as in 1974 over Kibris/Cyprus) the Eastern side wins in Ankara, and action results.
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Well, I suppose as they (Macedonia) aren't members of NATO this invasion is legally feasible, but it would wreck Greece's credibility within NATO for the next twenty years or more. And Turkey just needs "any excuse" to be belligerent on the River Evros front or in Cyprus. Can I counsel caution ?
(by the way, Aries, thanks for the translation. I had got as far as working out that "Ovcharka" is a sheep-dog in Russian, but no farther ! There are sayings in certain European languages that over-familiarity with sheep is a sure guide to sexual deviancy in rural areas, so je vais me taire ! )
TO GREEK MACEDONIAN
One good reason and they are done.
this may sound bellicose but its
the only way to clean up with this pyogeneous infection.
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to Ovchar od Lerin (shouldn't it be "od Lerina" ?) I think "Britain" is how it is actually spelled, not "Briton". And I think you have mis-spelled your password too. It should be:
"YEDEN DEN YEST SEGODNIA" ("One day is now/today") OK - Segodnia is pronounced 'Segodnia', but that's a detail.
S uvazheniem
Doktor Kornelius Vassilovich Helsinga
I am a Macedonian...from the occupied territories...
We work, walk and live among you "greeks" but keep our identity to ourselves...for now..then in 2013 we will rise up and liberate Aegean Macedonia and not even your precious master the UK will be able to help you.
EDEN DEN (One Day)E SEGA (is now)
We know it...the world knows it...and most importantly, you know it...
Only a Gerkoman would sell his soul to the highest bidder, Judas!
History is written, reality is something else...
The Ovchar is watching his flock and preparing for war in 20130...so flock off Gerk.
Peter
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The Treaty of Bucharest was signed "in perpetuity", like most Treaties are, and does NOT re-open in 2013. (Ask the Hungarians - they have tried more treaty-reopening avenues than most, as they dearly want to reopen the 1919 Treaty of Trianon which reduced their borders rather heavily. But they can't) So there.
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dream my friend dream!
The Treaty of Bucharest expires in 2013...end of negotiations.
Solun will be ours
Gameover for greece