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Saudi Arabia to encourage other Muslim countries to recognise Kosovo – ambassador
UNMIK headquarters, Pristina.
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Saudi Arabia’s newly-accredited ambassador in Pristina, Abdullah Abdulaziz Al-Abdulkarim, says that his country will engage other Muslim countries to recognise Kosovo as independent.
Al-Abdulkarim made the statement on December 22 2009, after presenting his credentials to Kosovo president Fatmir Sejdiu and meeting prime minister Hashim Thaci and foreign minister Skender Hyseni, local media reports said.
This is the third country to which Al-Abdulkarim is accredited. He is also Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to Albania and to Macedonia.
His country hoped that there would be further recognitions of Kosovo in future, and his government would do its utmost to encourage bilateral relations, Al-Abdulkarim said.
Kosovo unilaterally declared independence from Serbia in February 2008, a move rejected as illegal by Belgrade, which has challenged it in the International Court of Justice. An opinion by the court, legally not binding, is expected to be issued in 2010.
Sixty-four UN member states, and all but five of the 27 European Union member states have recognised Kosovo as independent.
Al-Abdulkarim made the statement on December 22 2009, after presenting his credentials to Kosovo president Fatmir Sejdiu and meeting prime minister Hashim Thaci and foreign minister Skender Hyseni, local media reports said.
This is the third country to which Al-Abdulkarim is accredited. He is also Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to Albania and to Macedonia.
His country hoped that there would be further recognitions of Kosovo in future, and his government would do its utmost to encourage bilateral relations, Al-Abdulkarim said.
Kosovo unilaterally declared independence from Serbia in February 2008, a move rejected as illegal by Belgrade, which has challenged it in the International Court of Justice. An opinion by the court, legally not binding, is expected to be issued in 2010.
Sixty-four UN member states, and all but five of the 27 European Union member states have recognised Kosovo as independent.
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Fri, Jan 08 2010 18:15 CET
"To 1, I really have no interest in debating with idiots.
Go and bother someone else you fool."
lol, great outburst
another bursted vein in a serb ethnic nationalist, if only all were as easy as you.
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What exactly do you think you achieved? No burst (not bursted) veins at all. Just a calm observation of you.
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To 1, I really have no interest in debating with idiots.
Go and bother someone else you fool.
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Wed, Jan 06 2010 15:44 CET
"You have some serious mental health issues." pegi
Says the split personality schizofreniac who thinks hes a doctor
lol
stay on topic please. or dont let your ignorance shine so much
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One does not have to be a psychiatrist to recognise mental ilness in people. These things are quite obvious even to a lay person.
Whenever you cn't debate you reach for that one [...]
Read the full comment "stay on topic". Have you practiced that?
BTW 1 is the loneliest number.
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"You have some serious mental health issues." pegi
Says the split personality schizofreniac who thinks hes a doctor
lol
stay on topic please. or dont let your ignorance shine so much
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Wed, Jan 06 2010 12:28 CET
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peggy, dont be jelous, becouse God did not hand serves a great past.
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You have some serious mental health issues.
peggy, dont be jelous, becouse God did not hand serves a great past.
Now you recite a line from Justin I from Nis :D
I hope you know that he had nothing to do with the slavik languages ;)
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Ethan,
Allow me to respectfully disagree with you on that point. I also may be wrong.
I said this before, if one writes at least three, four posts in a row, it is very easy to see, what he/she is like, how far he/she went to school, what they are after, no matter how much would one try to mask it.
In any case, the only thing that we could know for sure is - the arguments. And that is the only thing that counts.
Lucy:
>>Joe you need to studdy more about the albanian history and Kosova/Dardania... Slaves came to Balkan in 500 after christ (A.C). Albanians/Illyrians were there before than the slaves. Illyrians were also the first catholics in Europe, and together with the greeks they are/were the oldest/first people in Balkan. I think that you have been brainwashed by serbian propaganda... peace!<<
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So you are an Albanian, i.e. Illiryan? How funy! Could you say anything in Illiryan? And why did you [...]
Read the full comment have to get rid of your proud Illiryan name to change it into Albanian. When and why did that switch occur? The truth is - Illiryans are ancient extinct people. They did not leave you a title on any land in the Balkans. If something like that were the case, you would be "liberating" Dalmatian coast too, since that was Illiryan land million years ago. How crazy you have to be to argue a point who came first in the year 500 AD? Why don't you go back when 3' tall your namesake, chimpanzee Lucy was walking in Lesotho, to find out if you have any of her genes? If you are able to establish that linkage, then you could claim ownership of a chain of copper mines over there.
ladies and gentelmen please welcome the serb ethnic nationalists who have nothing to say other than virtual high five each other to feel better about the lack of their substance.
so so sad that both have to act westernised, becouse nobody wwould believe their barbaric storys
Ludvig Boltzmann,
I do my best to understand the issues in the Balkans, due to the fact that I do see injustice perpetrated against Serbs in my name. Being an American I think it is important for people to seek the truth in things, I've educated myself as best as I can. You have helped clarify a few points on the subordination of American values in foreign policy to corporate/military gain. I touched upon it, but obviously not enough. You should know that I do feel no small amount of shame in regards to what has [...]
Read the full comment happened ... otherwise why would I have spent so much time and energy to learn on my own?
Ethan, not a Serb:
>>I suppose what I was trying to say is that once Albanians became an American protectorate in Kosovo, our honor was tied to your behavior, if you will. It was never the intent to cage Serbians in Kosovo like animals. People have a right to defend themselves from being caged like animals.If this is what you were going to do with our honor we should have left it to fate for you, honestly.<<
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Read the full comment talking about American (Clinton Administration) honor and blame Albanians for "caging Serbians". Albanians did not install the barb wires around Serbian enclaves, did they? The caging was done by the US/NATO. The ethnic cleansing 2004, burning of Serbian medieval churches could not have been implemented without the NATO approval. Nothing in Kosovo could be done w/o the NATO approval. I do not see any American honor there. Shame for indirect complicity in criminal ethnic cleansing would be the right name for it.
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When you speak the truth everybody could understand you. When the US, the undisputed superpower goes in unilaterally into any of those banana republics and immediately starts talking about "nation building" (code word for own "puppets"), then rest assured, NOBODY is going to profit from such an INTERNATIONAL VIGILANTISM. What made the America great is the American society, the envy of the World, where an African American a descendant from a Kenyan emigrant could hands down win election in say Iowa (95% white population) and become the President of the US. Only in America. America stands for human liberty. For the last 200 years people all over the world were flocking to America to enjoy unprecedented freedoms. The same America often does not treat other peoples the way she treats own citizens.
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That said, it is not fair/just, in accordance with the Natural Laws for Albanians to be NATO (read: US) protectorate, or Serbian protectorate. It is not fair/just for NATO to take by force 15% of Serbian territory and to build the largest military base on it. We could play games all day long, American honor, Milosevic..., the bottom line is - a man is born to be free as a bird. Occupations, military bases, nation building and all that crap do not go with freedom. it is a subjugation, modern slavery..., which is never good for anybody.
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In that sense, whoever got the idea to build a monument for Klinton in Pristina was not thinking clearly. In my opinion, if they really want to thank someone for NATO Kosovo occupation, then they have to build a monument to Monica Lewinsky, not Bill. The Albanians cannot build their happiness on NATO military occupation. Without the NATO occupation, they cannot hold onto the loot. The only solution is convince the US that the gain of having the cost free military base is much smaller than the loss of famous "American honor", if you will and the outrage that it creates in all freedom loving people, Serbs especially.
Ethan:
>>greatbyz,
You are the one forcing the issue away from the topic. Even onto my ethnicity. If I may ... to the moderator?
I am a wet nosed American mutt through and through.
In order: Swede, German, Blackfoot, Irish, Welsh.
My basic point is that people do have the right to struggle to form nations, but they also have the right to fail. When the U.S. became a protectorate over Albanians in Kosovo they owed it to us [...]
Read the full comment to do everything in their power to stop the cycle of violence. How were we thanked? The new rulers, and the citizens in Kosovo continued ethnic cleansing of Serbs, withholding oxygen from sick Serbian babies, organ harvesting from Serbian civilians, weapons running into "Macedonia" gearing up for a new war, sex slave trade, and drug running. I think you will be surprised to find that Americans have a greater sense of fair play than you would imagine. I wish Albanians the best, but I won't lie or ignore facts. Our association with you has brought some shame, now I fear almost every state in the region with an Albanian population is under threat of civil war. We had to sit on you pretty hard to prevent a new war in "Macedonia" already. What is next, more in Serbia, or will it be Montenegro's turn?<<
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I do not like your shtick to present yourself as an American "mutt" (mostly Swede, German, black etc, when it is obvious that you know intrinsic details of the Balkans saga. there is no such a mutt in the US. There is no such a "mutt" in the US. So I go with the Albanians to state that you are, like me, an American Serb (Serbian American), which is fine, but it is distant secondary in discussing the issues. As for all your other points - they are brilliant, straight from head & heart. Carry on, please.
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Ethan, told you so.
There is no end to this ridiculous "debate" with Albanians.
As soon as you don't agree with them, they attack you with name calling e.g Piggy for me and who knows what they will come up for you, say you must be a Serb because nobody would ever back a Serb up or tell you you are sick, as in case of Argon telling me to take my pills, etc. etc. etc.
They cannot accept that only they, Croatians and Bosnian Muslims hate Serbs. Well the [...]
Read the full comment three Nazis from WW2, no suprise there.
greatbyz,
You are the one forcing the issue away from the topic. Even onto my ethnicity. If I may ... to the moderator?
I am a wet nosed American mutt through and through.
In order: Swede, German, Blackfoot, Irish, Welsh.
My basic point is that people do have the right to struggle to form nations, but they also have the right to fail. When the U.S. became a protectorate over Albanians in Kosovo they owed it to us to do everything in their power [...]
Read the full comment to stop the cycle of violence. How were we thanked? The new rulers, and the citizens in Kosovo continued ethnic cleansing of Serbs, withholding oxygen from sick Serbian babies, organ harvesting from Serbian civilians, weapons running into "Macedonia" gearing up for a new war, sex slave trade, and drug running. I think you will be surprised to find that Americans have a greater sense of fair play than you would imagine. I wish Albanians the best, but I won't lie or ignore facts. Our association with you has brought some shame, now I fear almost every state in the region with an Albanian population is under threat of civil war. We had to sit on you pretty hard to prevent a new war in "Macedonia" already. What is next, more in Serbia, or will it be Montenegro's turn?
"Looks like I am ruining the thread for you and the like only because you cannot debate me"
there is nothing to debate with you.
the topic is Soud Arabia is helping Kosovo for recognitions, you are going on about ethan and how whatever ethnic nationalist he is.
Please refer to the topic.
And ethan this is an anonymous forum, nobody will take your word for anything. as i said please debate with facts and constructive points.
The facts are:
Soud arabia [...]
Read the full comment with most of the West were most of the Serb refugees live know that what Serbs did and are doing. Everybody knows that serbians cherish war criminals that are wanted for genocide, who are very well protected by their own government.
Serbs have killed each other let alone their fellow "Kosovar citizens" haha i had to lought at their stupidity.
Serbia commits crimes everyday and fabricates storys every day against normal Kosovars.
If you want to debate, than debate piggy, but stay to the point and dont ruin Bulgarian websites with your gibarish posts and ethnic nationalism.
Kosovo just like Serbia had the same autonomy in Yogoslavia as did all the rest of the republics. When the barbarian Scorpions and asslizard girls commited genocides in Kosovo none of you Servs did anything, and now you want something that was not, is not and never will be yours. Pathetic
Please moderators, enforce the "topic" as some people are not here to debate or even talk, but to divert the atention to propaganda of ethnic nationalism.
Ethan, you don't need to explain yourself to anyone. If the Albanians don't believe who you are then that is their problem.
Why do you feel like you need to explain yourself to them? Let them think you are Serb or anyone else they want to think.
They don't have good arguments to they have to dismiss your as biased. Even if you were a Serb, it doesn't make you wrong. Serbs are intelligent people. Why dismiss their contributions as not worthy or their writings as wrong?
greatbyz Sun, Jan 03 2010 01:36 CET
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Ethan please stop labeling and generalising americans with some nonsence about football, this is an "anonymous" football and nobody cares who you "want to be".
As I said you are not even remotly American!!! if you have anything to debate debate, but please for the sake of others dont put your serb ethnic nationalism and mix it with hot air, debate!
and piggy, please stay on topic, and stop ruining the thread for others just becouse you got nothing [...]
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Looks like I am ruining the thread for you and the like only because you cannot debate me and I expose you for what you really are, unintelligent.
No harm in telling others the truth about your inability to accept criticism. You need to run everyone off this site who doesn't agree with you and who you cannot debate in a rational manner with facts.
I suppose what I was trying to say is that once Albanians became an American protectorate in Kosovo, our honor was tied to your behavior, if you will. It was never the intent to cage Serbians in Kosovo like animals. People have a right to defend themselves from being caged like animals.If this is what you were going to do with our honor we should have left it to fate for you, honestly.
Save holy Kosovo and Metohija from Islam.
*"anonymous" forum
Ethan please stop labeling and generalising americans with some nonsence about football, this is an "anonymous" football and nobody cares who you "want to be".
As I said you are not even remotly American!!! if you have anything to debate debate, but please for the sake of others dont put your serb ethnic nationalism and mix it with hot air, debate!
and piggy, please stay on topic, and stop ruining the thread for others just becouse you got nothing fruitful to add!
Ethan, you will be getting attacked form all sides now. As soon as you say something negative about Albanians they say you are a Serb for they cannot understand that there are people in the world who actually agree with Serbs and will side with them.
Now that's arrogance and stupidity.
greatbyz,
I'm just being honest with you, I'm not Serb, never even been to Serbia. I've seen the maps Albanians have for their greater Illyria though, anything you point a finger at the Serbs about will point right back at yourself. Americans just happen to be culturally way more similar to Serbians than they we are with Albanians. In my quest to learn about this subject I have learned a great many things this, and is one of them. The other thing I learned ... it is basically impossible for an American to understand European nationalism, [...]
Read the full comment it is only possible for us to "get" it on a very superficial level. Hard as I try I can't understand a lot of things about your behavior. Like soccer, or football rather, people will mess each other of for almost anything, but football? I know it has more to do this nationalism, than it does the game, microcosm of a larger issue, like controlled warfare on a lawn with nets, and a leather ball.
I write in greater detail my opinions on this subject in the article on the Pope.
Ethan stop with the wikis man, if you would not want your kids to grow up with fake information, stop feeding it to others.
As for your Serb ethnic nationalist "opinion" refer to my answer to piggy.
As for the "imperialist agenda" bs, just look at the serbs who are still daydreaming about Kosovo becouse of "historical" links, but on vojvodina they daydream becouse of population links. Pathetic ethnic nationalsists. thats all.
Just answer me this Sorboi are 5th centuary slave immigrants, Serviles are 7th centuary barbarians who immigrated in [...]
Read the full comment a 2200 year old city, there were people there already,
so who was there before the barbarians practiced their genocides what they recently showed in the 90?
Show proof and not your pathetic ethnic nationalist side, you seam to put all other decent serbs to the ground with your weak as a spineless fish argument!!
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Peggy - sorry Moderators - but you Peggy are just getting plain BORING.
Can't you think of anything relevant / witty / original to say ?
Other than that, the words "waste of space" come to mind.....
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"Illyrians are long gone. There is no trace of them now. prggy"
the nazzis, mladic and the tsaas lizard guard are also "gone" hahahaha
too bad that only serb ethnic nationalists would agree with you.
but you know the saying, in a place that all think the same, nobody thinks at all.
poor Djindic tried to change the backward serbs, but bullets is all he got in return.
grow up, and stop sounding so jelous.
the sorboi serbs [...]
Read the full comment are still alive from 5th centuary ad. servs were used as slaves in those days,(and you reccon illirians are no more, blind with envy ;) all barbarians were, dont feel ashamed for what they went through, at least they got to live once they escaped the mongol attacks that made them flee, and only slaves would flee.
Lucy
Sun, Dec 27 2009 15:15 CET
"Joe you need to studdy more about the albanian history and Kosova/Dardania... Slaves came to Balkan in 500 after christ (A.C). Albanians/Illyrians were there before than the slaves."
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Who are the "Slaves" you refer to?
If you are talking about the Serbs, do you mean that they came as slaves? Whose slaves?
Illyrians are long gone. There is no trace of them now.
it seams the serbs are the only ones who do not beleive in illyrians, but for themself they are 'sure' they were serviles from the 7th cent ad. hahahaa
go back to sorboi in germany you flees.
Första kristna folket i Europa, nämligen illyrerna kut ;)
Illyria was one the first scenes of the evangelic activities of Paul the Apostle, in which the Christian message was preached. According to the Bible, Paul the Apostle "fully preached the gospel of Christ roundabout Illyricum", and in the flourishing cities of Dyrrachium and Appolonia, still in existence in present Albania. Octavius Augustus had studied at a military academy in Appolonia, before returning to Rome to become its Emperor, when his uncle, Julius Caesar was assassinated. Cicero called Appolonia a "beautiful and imposing city". William Shakespeare had [...]
Read the full comment chosen Appolonia as an attractive scene of events in his famous play "The Twelfth Night".
It was during this period of time, the worst persecution of Christians took place. The first martyrs of Christendom in Europe, Florin in 117 A.D. and Lorin in 138 A.D., both Illyrians, had been killed in Ulpiana (near present Prishtina). The Roman Emperor Galerius from Illyria, convinced of the futility of the persecutions on the Christians, issued the Edict of Toleration, which granted Christians the freedom of worship. To the newly instituted Christian Empire, Illyria contributed the men who instituted it. Constantine the Great converted to Christianity and put the symbol of Christ on his soldiers’ shields. He was a native of Naissus ( Kosova), which at that time was an Albanian town, just as it is now a Serbian one. Saint Jerome, the first translator of the Holy Scriptures into Latin, and the Father of Church of Christ, is noted in Butler’s book, Lives of Saints, as born in Illyria and speaking the Illyrian language. Pope Sylvester, and the Emperors of Byzantium, during the 6th century A.D., Justin and his nephew Justinian, were also of Illyrian descent.... Visa mer
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Joe you need to studdy more about the albanian history and Kosova/Dardania... Slaves came to Balkan in 500 after christ (A.C). Albanians/Illyrians were there before than the slaves. Illyrians were also the first catholics in Europe, and together with the greeks they are/were the oldest/first people in Balkan. I think that you have been brainwashed by serbian propaganda... peace!
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Aron
Thu, Dec 24 2009 16:21 CET
"By the way most of these "Serb" churches were Albanian roman catholic churches with a few Albanian orthodox ones. Serbs only know how to steal other peoples history and create myths to base their history on. Because they have no history."
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My God, your lies are getting bigger and bigger.
Can you prove any of this crap?
By the way most of these "Serb" churches were Albanian roman catholic churches with a few Albanian orthodox ones. Serbs only know how to steal other peoples history and create myths to base their history on. Because they have no history.
Serbian "Joe" or wahtever your name is. Your serb theories that kosovars came from albanian is so stupid. Albanians lived in these parts for thousands of years. its the serbs who invaded these parts - or should i say have been unwelcomed visitors, and its about time they left.
Serbs committed the worst crimes against humanity since ww2 in kosovo and Yugoslavia, have you forgoten? Serbs cannot live peacefully with any other nation. FInd a neighbour of Serbia that likes the Serbs or is liked by them.
They should back off and let people live in [...]
Read the full comment peace.
Why should Albanians get everything and Serbs nothing? Kosovo was always Serbian territory and this is evident from the number of orthodox churches in Kosovo with some dating back as far as the 6th century. High efflux of Albanians from Albania as well as much higher birth rate among Albanians compared to the Serbs made Kosovo what it is today with Albanians forming a majority. Compared to Albania, Kosovo is richer and provides better opportunities. This possibly explains why 2 million Albanians live in Kosovo and 3 million in Albania. I personally condemn the actions of Milosevic and any ethnic [...]
Read the full comment cleansing. However, Albanian guerilla fighters have constantly launched attacks on Serbian civilians in Kosovo for many decades. Why is this any different from Turkey and Kurds in Turkey. There are 30 million Kurds in the world and as many as 12 million live in Turkey. Why should Albanians with population of less then 2 million in Kosovo get a second country whereas Kurds don't even have one. Also if the world wants to give Albanians Kosovo, why give them the whole thing. Serbs form a majority in western regions of Kosovo. Why not divide it then? Why should 200000 Serbs listen to 2 million Albanians?
bravo saudi arabia god bles you