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Secrecy is the problem, not leakers

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Secrecy is the problem, not leakers

Ukrainian activists cover their mouths with US flags during a rally in support of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in front of the Swedish embassy to Ukraine in Kiev on December 22 2010.

WikiLeaks is now at the centre of a global battle between media and those in power but what's new about what Julian Assange is doing? WikiLeaks is much more than just another journalistic scandal, it is a challenge to the way that power and news media operate in the Internet Age.

In some ways WikiLeaks is a traditional investigative news operation. It gets its information from a source and the journalists decide what they will publish. It needs a platform, an audience and revenue just like any other newsroom. It can also be sued, censored or attacked. But because it is trying to operate online outside of normal national jurisdictions it is harder to hold to account. It can use mirror sites and multiple servers to avoid physical restraint.

It also disseminates data on such a vast scale and directly to the public so it is posting a different threat to those in authority used to being able to influence if not control the media. It is independent and not run for profit and the people who work for it are ideologically motivated. This all makes it much harder to clamp down.

Oxford University Internet analyst John Naughton says that what WikiLeaks is really exposing is the extent to which the western democratic system has been hollowed out. It is not that what it publishes will endanger lives or make government impossible. It is that it forces power out into the open. That is why those in power are attacking it. WikiLeaks worries them because it protects its sources and gives the evidence directly and in great detail and scale to the citizen.

It is also a challenge to mainstream media. As Columbia University digital journalism expert Emily Bell argues, it forces journalists and news organisations to demonstrate to what extent they are now part of an establishment it is their duty to report. In other words, WikiLeaks exposes the degree to which normal journalism has lost its watchdog role.

Mainstream journalism stands accused of failing to be critical enough of those in authority. Over the economic crash of 2007 and over intelligence and the Iraq war, it failed to challenge the conventional wisdom. It was not a conspiracy or a failure of resource. It was because journalism can be too responsible, balanced and passive. Sometimes journalism needs to be disruptive, critical and even partial.

No-one denies that what WikiLeaks has revealed about the Iraq war or the diplomatic cables is true. It is important because it has revealed specific abuses such as the collateral damage video of US military executing civilians. But the latest release of diplomatic communications are even more significant because they show how power works, not just what it does. It gives an insight into the values, priorities and knowledge of authority that helps us to make much better-informed judgements of what those in power actually do. Surely, that is precisely what journalism is for?

It is encouraging to see how WikiLeaks is now working with mainstream news media organisations on their latest stories. It is good that the expertise within those newsrooms can be used to help filter, explain and contextualise the raw data. It can then be presented in a way that allows for proper responses by the authorities and the public. That kind of interaction is exactly what should happen over these issues, not the knee-jerk attempt to kill the messenger.

Instead of blocking access to websites and hiding behind firewalls it would be sensible for those in power to consider a more mature and transparent relationship with their citizens.

Of course, some of these revelations may compromise safety and security. There should always be limits on free expression. Responsibility comes with rights for the journalist. However, even when it is damaging, disclosure should always be welcomed. It's why it's the First Amendment.

The danger is that we are now heading towards a future where governments from Beijing to Washington will welcome more controls on the Internet. This would then limit the power of the most liberating technology the world has seen since the invention of printing itself. It would be nave to expect those in power to embrace radical accountability. So we need to fight for transparency and embrace the opportunity that initiatives like WikiLeaks represent.

I recognise that WikiLeaks is not itself entirely transparent but I think that it is becoming more so and other better versions will follow. The real problem in the world is secrecy not leakers.

Charlie Beckett is the founding director of POLIS, the journalism think-tank at the London School of Economics and UN Global Expert. He blogs at www.charliebeckett.org and you can reach him on Twitter at @charliebeckett.

Source: Global Experts (
www.theglobalexperts.org), a project of the United Nations Alliance of Civilizations. Copyright 2010 Global Experts/UNAOC

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Anonymous Aeolusblue Wed, Feb 16 2011 05:45 CET

Unfortunately, the US government is held together by secrecy and lies. Hypocrisy abounds. Government & corporate leaders break our laws with impunity. Complaints against those in corporate or government power are ignored. I have personal experience with our leaders who would like to keep their activities secret. See my website about the Bush/Schwab conspiracy here: aeolusblue.net This is the real world we live in.

Anonymous Myra Maines Fri, Feb 04 2011 20:51 CET

Hooray for WikiLeaks!
WikiLeaks Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize for Promoting Freedom of Speech.

Anonymous Raymond Wed, Jan 26 2011 14:58 CET

The only limits to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today.So keep on exposing those secrets

Anonymous William Mon, Jan 24 2011 01:00 CET

From what I understand, torrent networks can't be controlled or shut down. If we need to we can share information on P2P networks. I expect this is already occurring to some degree.
Meanwhile, beware the concern trolls. I am starting to notice there are a lot of them.

Anonymous 1dfd Sun, Jan 23 2011 23:38 CET

what we do in life echoes in eternity,lets try to create a better world!!!

Anonymous henk gerrits Fri, Jan 21 2011 13:38 CET

First my Greatings to you al. We mush stay awakening for the dangerous Imperialisme. Georgi Dimitroff say it Ferry Clear; Unety against Fascism. Saluty for Dimitroff Popoff and Tanef. viva Socialism.

Anonymous drkaliga Thu, Jan 20 2011 00:06 CET

Thanks to all for your comments. I learned something from everyone.You are the people who will change the world, if you can find a way to communicate via the internet.

Anonymous Alex Main Wed, Jan 19 2011 15:52 CET

Why is wikileaks refusing to do an article on Eugenics?Scared?.I,m open to being interviewed re the secret and shameful Eugenic movement.Please get in touch.
Alex Main.

Anonymous carlos Wed, Jan 19 2011 13:40 CET

Estoy deacuerdo en que la libertad de expresión esta siendo pisoteada por los gobiernos corruptos de distintos países, pero no obstante por eso debemos quedarnos de brazos cruzado por eso yo me uno a las iniciativas de este medio de comunicación para que se haga transparente todo lo que los funcionarios de estados callan por que han sido puesto en funciones para servir a un pueblo no para beneficiarse de ellos.

Anonymous Herbert Wed, Jan 19 2011 13:22 CET

you cannot throw the truth in the fire - THE TRUTH IS THE FIRE!

Anonymous 1 Wed, Jan 19 2011 05:10 CET

I totally agree with this ,find it s
a balanced approach.

Lets keep in the spirit of love & peace.

Anonymous Robertification Tue, Jan 18 2011 19:52 CET

"A lie is a lie. Just because they write it down and call it history doesn't make it the truth. We live in a world where seeing is not believing. We live in a world where everything we know is wrong." #Frank Woods

Leave Julian Assange alone, don't shoot the messenger...

Преглед на профил Ю. Tue, Jan 18 2011 13:09 CET

@vidya sagar
Good point!

Anonymous Jitender Tue, Jan 18 2011 11:52 CET

I completely agree with what the author of this article says. But i have one question to ask from every one. Who are these people indulging into such kind of frauds and everything?? Aren't they emanating from common man itself?? The matter of the fact is, that every one is corrupt but the scale and level of corruption differs. In fact, given an opportunity, no one will leave an opportunity to play with other's hard earned money.

Anonymous begundal Tue, Jan 18 2011 11:19 CET

it is right that the real problem is secrecy, not leakers. but it doesn't mean that we cannot have private secrets of our own selves, right ?

Anonymous toggle Tue, Jan 18 2011 09:22 CET

@jed...you are an example of the kind of stupidity that allows Fascists to hoodwink the masses. Uncovering secret information is not only good journalism it is essential to any society that wishes to have the right to choose their own destiny. You have it completely backwards...it is the bullies and cowards that operate in secret. If you truly believe what you just wrote it may be too late for you.

Anonymous hubble123 Tue, Jan 18 2011 05:03 CET

if only the US didnt interfere in others business there wouldnt have been a wikileaks....thanks wikileaks

Anonymous AL Queensland Tue, Jan 18 2011 03:53 CET

Wikileaks' keep up the good work.I take my hat off to you and hope that you stay safe and well.We have the right to know the truth and though the truth may be a bitter pill to swollow,i for one would want to live the truth than live a lie.There is a saying and i swear it is true.EVIL TRIUMPHS WHEN GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING.God Bless all the journalists that report the truth and God Bless Julian Assange for having the courage to speak the truth.

Anonymous Kompas Mon, Jan 17 2011 22:25 CET

Very interesting! I'm living in Ukraine,Kiew and information about support in my country i'he see at the first! No tv, no internet - anything about this protests... All information i've take from other countries sites.

Anonymous Joaquin Burgos Mon, Jan 17 2011 18:08 CET

It is great news that wikileaks is working in a partnership with main stream media in order to create a legitimate platform to questions those exposed in wikileaks. This is needed in order to remove the crywolf attitude assume by the powerful individuals that are shaking in fear contemplating that the luxury and shameful way of conducting business as usual is coming to an end.

Anonymous 1 Mon, Jan 17 2011 17:46 CET

I believe some secrets need to be kept as secrets but when those secrets become lies use to manipulate the masses then those secrets are no longer secrets. They become instruments of oppression, injustice, and inequality. The Internet is the great equalizer and people around the world are entitled to be informed what their leaders are doing so we the people can hold them accountable. But, not only political figures should be scrutinize, but also the powerful individuals and institutions that influence them by the shear power of their money.

Anonymous vidya sagar Mon, Jan 17 2011 15:23 CET

We the citizens of this world have the right to know the truth about what's happening in our world and these dictators(rulers) cant hold the truth for long. Wikileaks proves it. we live in the age of internet and nothing can stop us from being who we are.

Anonymous @@jed Mon, Jan 17 2011 12:23 CET

jed .. u are stupid .. thats all i can say about u .. u think that following these governments with all these crimes makes u something ? .. well it makes u look pathetic !

Anonymous BloodyDemocracy.com Mon, Jan 17 2011 09:42 CET

People of Nations should stand up and remove this rotten dictators that we call our Government and make them accountable for their Evil (Lies, corruption, killing of the innocent).

Anonymous Janie Mon, Jan 17 2011 05:40 CET

This is a truly wondrful article, and one of the best thought out and communicated I've read so far.
WikiLeaks is withot doubt a gateway to the truth, and now that we have access to the facts, no matter how hard it is to whittle them down, I pray that we are able to put an end to those that would do us harm. We deserve WikiLeaks, and it's our right as human beings to know who and what we're up against. Gd bless Julian Assange, and blessings to l those that stad their ground against corruption.

Anonymous concerned citizen Mon, Jan 17 2011 01:47 CET

SUPPORT WIKILEAKS not just with your emotional support but HELP them defend their site, move it around and defend their journalists send donations!
WikiLeaks (or any suitable name likely to avoid interception in your country)
BOX 4080
Australia Post Office - University of Melbourne Branch
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Anonymous 1 Sun, Jan 16 2011 23:59 CET

Ghandi continued "only be sure that the boy is a Muslim, and you raise him as a Muslim".
Or perhaps...
boy is a Thugee, and you raise him as a Thugee, or...
boy is a Cannibal, and you raise him as a Cannibal, or...
boy is a son of a serial killer, and you raise him as a serial killer.
Perhaps you could use your own judgement on that one. Investigate the evil in any religion before you commit to it. The hardest one to question will always be your [...]

Read the full comment own. (especially the communist and environmental or earth mother religions)

Anonymous David Sun, Jan 16 2011 23:35 CET

The only real problem I see here is that there is no reciprocity. Our western notion of the freedom of speech is a great thing. But it is not even assumed in the east.
Were these folks wearing chinese flags over their mouths when that regime ACTUALLY DID & DOES torture simple dissidents and sell their surviving body parts on the black market?
I support you but call for some perspective.

Anonymous Niza Lopes Sun, Jan 16 2011 21:20 CET

Congratulations to the author! This is a well written article that sums up the whole wikileaks situation and the reasons why so many are afraid of Assange. God bless all those who are fighting for justice, righteousness and transparancy.

Anonymous anonymous Sun, Jan 16 2011 18:15 CET

you are anonymous
we are anonymous
we are legion
we do not forgive
we do not forget
expect us

Anonymous nik from albania Sun, Jan 16 2011 16:35 CET

west is the true evil and has been for the past 400 years muslims are not terrorists, the people that commit murder the so called terrorists they are simply mind-controlled people by the governments, otherwise why bother with the leaks? of course there is secrecy, russia america united kingdom and chine are all guilty of murder, who dropped the atomic bomb? who made chernobil? who went to falklands? who went to vietnam? who went to iraq? who went to afghanistan? who did 9/11? do you people think that i am such an idiot ( as the rest of you )to [...]

Read the full comment believe that 3 or 4 individuals managed to take controll of planes over the sky of new york and pulled 9/11 murder not in a million years? it would take hours to do that i mean where was security that costs millions,? fighter jets that are suposed to cover the area within 3-7 minutes and destroy anything on their way. what a bunch of morons, wakey wakey people

Anonymous*******Sun, Jan 16 2011 16:00 CET

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Anonymous nik Sun, Jan 16 2011 15:52 CET

mmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Anonymous Alex Sun, Jan 16 2011 15:27 CET

Lets hope they do an article on eugenics.I gave no concent to being used by them.tsk-tsk

Anonymous Donald duck Sun, Jan 16 2011 12:47 CET

freedom to the earth !!!

Anonymous ossojej Sun, Jan 16 2011 12:08 CET

Why is WikiLeaks is now at the centre of a global battle between media and those in power but what's new about what Julian Assange is doing?
The power is now speaking.
I hope everyone can see the differentiate.

Anonymous Kambo Sun, Jan 16 2011 08:37 CET

Keep up the good work especially the evils of corruption here in Kenya.

Anonymous Agent Smith Sun, Jan 16 2011 03:54 CET

Our governments have failed people for hundreds of years. We are in a state of perpetual non consensual war. Our doctors are content to simply mask the symptoms of diseases we had cures for a hundred years ago. Industrial corporations are destroying the ecosystem without remorse. There's no evidence to suggest any of these things will change and our media is a disgrace to humanity for not being honest about any of the above, and for playing its part as the slime that congeals and seals the ransid status quo. And what happens when a human tries to shine a [...]

Read the full comment light on the said iniquities?

Anonymous Alan Gould Sun, Jan 16 2011 01:54 CET

so happy about the great work being done by wikileaks. if the governments mean what they have been saying they are disgusting if they do not then they are liars and should only say what they do not mind being repeated.

Anonymous Georgy Sun, Jan 16 2011 00:56 CET

The so called powers don't like the truths being revealed. Thank you Wikileaks for trying to give power back to the people by allowing the voices to be heard that the governments don't listen to or are trying to silence, just as they are doing with Julian. Go Julian, I'm behind you..great work. About time that people got their voices back. The US government is the biggest threat to world peace and are the true terrorists.

Anonymous Manuel Sun, Jan 16 2011 00:20 CET

Los secretos son pecaminosos y la filtración es siempre una información.

Anonymous*******Sat, Jan 15 2011 18:12 CET

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Anonymous jinny roach Sat, Jan 15 2011 18:02 CET

Julian was given info, he's a journo, were just hearing what we should be entitled to, USA freaking cos they have a so called leak, crucify him!, Julians the messenger with the balls, Im sick of the world being run by the Bankers and the rich wankers who don't want change!!!!

Anonymous zaidoon al-shuqiri Sat, Jan 15 2011 17:35 CET

go on Wikileaks

Anonymous mojrem Sat, Jan 15 2011 17:13 CET

assanj u doing a cr8 job keep going god and we with u .

Anonymous Anonymous Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:44 CET

The problem isn't that it gets leaked, it is that governments are doing wrong.

Anonymous magyarbrit Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:43 CET

The posting by diggetyda is the only balanced one on this topic.

It is worrying to see so many posters in favour of free speech insulting others with an opposing view.

It is wrong for Wikileaks to claim credit for the overthrow of Ben Ali. The bravery of the Tunisian people are the only ones who can be credited!!

I believe Wikileaks have not broken any laws, although releasing details of US strategic locations around the world was irresponsible and they do themselves no favours by being a [...]

Read the full comment secretive organisation themselves which is somewhat of a dichotomy.

Julian Assange does not come across as an open and honest individual and it is surprising that he is fighting extradition to Sweden which has a highly developed democratic justice system.It would be much simpler for the US to extradite him from the UK then from Sweden. His determination to avoid facing criminal charges puts his credibility open to criticism.

I have lived under an oppressive communist regime and blelieve me we should think ourselves fortunate that we live in a democratic society where we can openly criticise our governments without fear of retribution as well as having the right to protest.

Our governments are not perfect, but if we don't like them we can have our say at the ballot box.

Anonymous Mich Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:37 CET

@ Shane: Perfectly said sir.

You might like this quote:

"Men are ruled, at this minute by the clock, by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern."
G.K. Chesterton

Anonymous Alex Main Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:34 CET

I so agree.secrecy is the problem

Anonymous Anon. Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:34 CET

Jed, could you please define what is "good" journalism?

If you can't differentiate between "spreading diplomatic emails and spreading someone’s credit card details", let me help you. One promotes government transparency, which enables the people to know whether their representatives are representing their needs truthfully. While the other is a financial crime.


Truth is, the voting public can only make informed choices if they know what their leaders are up to, NOT what said leaders tell us because everyone knows how deceiving most of them are, looking mostly for their [...]

Read the full comment self-interests and the corporate friends surrounding them.

If you want to live under the rule of a secret government, why not join one of the few totalitarian countries still in existence today? Act accordingly to your words.

Anonymous Dave Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:26 CET

Please proofread your article.

It was USA, not the UK that was involved in the "collateral murder" video.

Anonymous babylon Sat, Jan 15 2011 15:12 CET

All those states calling themselves the free western world have one problem: We have not yet understood real democracy. We are allowed to vote by making a little cross on a peace of paper every now and some year but those that have been voted to be only our representatives think that they are the thinking elite und begin to use methods of governing that we all that belongs to the past, i.e. at least to the end world war II or earlier. And then the strange organisations Secret Service, BND etc. they have gone backwards deep into a totalitarian [...]

Read the full comment realm. They have more to say nowadays as our socalled democratic representative, i.e. our politicians. They also have to obey those organisations.

Anonymous annie Sat, Jan 15 2011 14:48 CET

I agree completely that secrecy is the creator of problems. Like most people, I want the truth not propaganda.

Anonymous Marion Hubbard Sat, Jan 15 2011 14:25 CET

This is all about opening of minds and the struggle to contend with closed minds. It is time to change education of children from one of conditioning and closed-mindedness to one of meaningful learning and open- mindedness... education for complete human development or 'holistic education'.

Anonymous Knut Sat, Jan 15 2011 13:32 CET

The only problem Wikileaks has is the hole form this revelation of secrets has taken. The point of leaking it bit by bit so that the readers can actually reflect over it, in stead of dumping it all at once. Because of this they are forced to be less transparent than they otherwise would. And that's the only way to go. If all of thees cables would have been released at once, it would be to much information going to waste. One or a few of the cases would overshadow alot of important info.
So we should just [...]

Read the full comment continue to be greatful of Wikileaks for acting the way they do. They will be hunted by some establisments for a long time to come, and have to have some sort of secrecy regarding their organisation.

Anonymous derrishious Sat, Jan 15 2011 13:15 CET

@diggetyda

It sounds more like a worldwide stupid-off than a conversation

Anonymous Ricky T Sat, Jan 15 2011 13:11 CET

Please edit your article.... The UK is NOT responsible for manslaughter it is the UNITED STATES which killed those reuters reporters and innocent families.

Change it.

US != UK

Your article is good and to the point, I'm slightly offended that it states my nation was responsible for the collateral murder video.

Anonymous Stella Sat, Jan 15 2011 13:11 CET

Good image hope to see more all around the world.

Anonymous Guy Sat, Jan 15 2011 12:37 CET

Keep it up Wikileaks!

Anonymous Yog Bear Sat, Jan 15 2011 12:31 CET

Thank God for Wikileaks

Anonymous 1Mobo Sat, Jan 15 2011 11:42 CET

Divulging secrets or exposing crimes and lies?
Done by bullies and cowards? Exactly!
Anyone who supports it has no morals or ethics? Well said.
Spreading diplomatic emails? No. It is reporting proofs of crimes, deceptions, immoralities and ethic-free conduct of bullies and cowards.

Anonymous Joe Sat, Jan 15 2011 10:59 CET

As long as people like Jed exist, we are going to have to work very hard to undo the destructive opinions of the brainwashed. Transparancy is the only way forward and the Internet has the power to bring good people together to fight the powers that control us and lie to us. Spread the word of TRUTH!

Anonymous Thomas L. Sat, Jan 15 2011 10:10 CET

As an American I have always been taught, always been told, that our government must be for the people and by the people. That is clearly not the case at the moment - state secrets? It's OUR country, FOR us, we deserve to and MUST know what and why our country is doing with OUR money, and more importantly in our name.

Anonymous Vicki Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:26 CET

Hopefully in the future telling it how it is wont be such a big deal.

Anonymous http://www.skeptictank.org/ Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:12 CET

The Wikileaks volunteers are doing the Democratic work that Democracies require: Transparency. Democratic governments can not function when the populace are unaware of what their elected representatives are doing, thus the valuable work that the Wikileaks volunteers are doing is *vital* for a healthy Democracy.

Thus we see why the Christianic terrorists, war criminals, and corporate traitors of the Bush/Obama regime oppose the work that Wikileaks does.

95%+ of the world's populace who have the ability to comment on Wikileaks are in support of the organization. The rest are terrorist sympathizers, war [...]

Read the full comment criminals, corporate traitors and their media lapdogs.

Thank God for Wikileaks.

Anonymous Banjo Lawson Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:09 CET

We will see this image again. Powerful.

Anonymous Gary Hay Sat, Jan 15 2011 09:07 CET

Charlie, amend your article. It wasn't the UK Military responsible for the collateral murder video - it was the US Military.

S is no-where near K on the keyboard - haven't you ever heard of proof-reading?

Anonymous @Jed Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:53 CET

You are one brainwashed dude. Governments aren't supposed to keep secrets from their own citizens unless the information has immediate security concerns. However, if the information has details of ANYTHING illegal, they have to be released. Hiding illegal activities has no place in a democracy.

Anonymous gary Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:51 CET

sounds like wikikeaks just crawled in bed with mainstream media, another sad day for the world "It is encouraging to see how WikiLeaks is now working with mainstream news media organisations on their latest stories."

Anonymous Todd Boyle Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:05 CET

Thank you, Sofia activists. You are so inspiring. I am so grateful.
-Todd in seattle

Anonymous Dennis Petrak Sat, Jan 15 2011 08:03 CET

The secret is really no secret! The rest of the world knows that we have become preditory since WW2;our economics, our politics, and our way of life. The secret is that no one before now has revealed the secrets to the American People. We want to trust our government of the people for the people by the people... not of the rich, for the rich, by the rich. John Lennon told us,"you look like peasants to me", in the 1980's. He was right on...here we are subjects of the mega corporations, in charge of preditory practices on the world.
[...]

Read the full comment /> What will we do?

Anonymous Rod Night Sydney. Sat, Jan 15 2011 07:57 CET

When Injustice becomes Law,
Resistance becomes Duty !

What a shame we can't trust the people we vote into power.

Anonymous Rey L. San Gaspar Sat, Jan 15 2011 07:49 CET

I would rather believe a man bearing the truth, than another wielding a gun. I would rather be governed by a government which does transparency than another which promotes secrecy.
Government is a mere creation of the people, it should serve them.
It is mandated to protect rights and liberties,not to violate them.
It should promote peace not raise conflicts for unknown (or ill-motivated) causes.
Kudos to the author!

Anonymous Mik of Melbourne Sat, Jan 15 2011 07:32 CET

A lot of these secrets are about what the US think and speak of other countries and leaders, if only they (USA) would learn to keep their big mouth shut, they wouldnt need a lot of these secrets and hence the world would be a better overall place to live.

Anonymous uTool Sat, Jan 15 2011 06:30 CET

Jed, the difference between diplomatic cables and credit card details: Credit cards are private funds and therefore only meant for the individual, diplomatic cables are communcations about how the countries we are citizens of are being run and therefore should be open to the scrutiny of said citizens, without whom there would be no country. That wasn't hard, was it? If you're still having trouble, maybe you should start at Dr. Suess and work your way up.

Anonymous Jovialau Sat, Jan 15 2011 06:06 CET

At last..A sane rational journaslistic endeavour.Let us fervently hope,that it does not lead to gunsights superimposed over a photo.

Anonymous chris Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:58 CET

i agree with most of your views and as diggetyda it is incredible that we can converse about the issues with people globally if we lived in a direct democracy like people in ancient greece and rome then our opinions would amount to something,but like synaps said the rule of law is broken now which means our democracy has been perverted into something else that which all previous generations fought for is gone or almost isnt it time for us to rebel against the election system we currently have where all potencial leaders are essencially the same why cant we [...]

Read the full comment us our internet as a way to vote on all issues and go back to a direct democracy where we could get our leaders to only pass legislature according to our wishes in that kind of democracy the parliament and all decision making would be fully dependant on what we want i know my idea is far from perfect as the internet can be hacked and thing like it but wouldnt it be preferable to what we have now? when iwent to high school never was there a course about politics to get the young informed about the government and its parties and also help you form an opinion about the political climate even in college you had to go into politics to get something like that. wouldnt it be better to get people informed about politics at an earlier age so they actually know what to vote for at the elections(system is corrupt but still better then nothing). i am canadian and frankly i find we are almost the same as the us as we follow their lead in everything they do and that pisses me off. anyways just my opinion. and jed have you even looked at the information that wikileaks has alot of it has no reason to be classified the government is simply trying to hide embarrasement behind secrecy and also watch collateral murder then complain about the fact that wikileaks is releasing classified information i am sorry but the murder of civilians by the US and its cover up should not be allowed also did you hear the sorry about a us military contractor compagny basically pimping out young boys to high ranked politicians i believe it was on wikileaks a while ago. sorry if my writing is not perfect as my first language is french. sorry if this text shows up twice i wasn't sure if the first post attempt worked.

Anonymous Abs Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:52 CET

I don't know Assange personally, thus really can't form an opinion on the man's character. However, he has provided us with very confidential information. This article shows Ukrainian activists, very recently i heard there is a chaos and abuse of the presidential power in that country. Government is cracking down on every any powerful opposition leader. In such a country where protest led to indefinite jail, you want me to believe there is not ulterior motive for the government to organize and support such a rally. Of-course there is it's all those damn sanctions against Ukraine.

Anonymous SamE Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:34 CET

It is important as a human to not be ignorant of what is really going on. That very basic premise is enough to warrant either far less secrecy, or sites like Wikeleaks. End of.

Anonymous Shane Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:33 CET

It is interesting to read some comments that are in favor of the secrets being kept and by extension governments getting away with Murder (Collateral Murder, just to name one) Every person should remember what was said by Jefferson: Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty. If governments are doing keeping secrets, if governments are removing your "rights" then you must speak out. finally: All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.

Anonymous PaulDemorest Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:31 CET

@Steve comment posted on Jan 15 at 5:26 CET...let me guess, you work for the US State Department, right?...how else would such a slanted opinion be formed?...time to wake up!

Anonymous Steve Sat, Jan 15 2011 05:26 CET

If everyone were honest in the world, then leaking would not only be acceptable, but it would be the norm. As it stands, secrecy keeps the world at peace, and making a country vulnerable to attack for the sake of an ideal is just senselessly putting innocent lives at stake. This is IDIOCY.

Anonymous Synaps Sat, Jan 15 2011 04:40 CET

We are told frequently by those who seek power over us that we live under the rule of law. This is assumed to be a good thing. When Law is made and applied with compassion to the needs of the population, then it truly is good. A codified set of rules that everyone can understand and is applicable to the current societal conditions is preferable to the whims of Rulers.

Unfortunately, the "rule of law" as we have it is a sham. It is an illogical con job. It is claimed that the system has suitable [...]

Read the full comment checks and balances built in to prevent manipulation. BS. Those who obtain power over us make the laws!! Duh!! If they get in in there collective heads to oppress or deceive or siphon off funds through dodgy deals, they can legitimise their actions quite easily. Yes, sometimes there is some noise from the judiciary, but this can be dealt with. Who appoints the judges? Most of recent histories monstrous regimes operated under the law.

The Law is a pawn of the belief system.

The problem we are having at present is that the majority believe the basic tenants of the Militarist/Capitalist system.
There is discontent because of recent over the top dumb actions by the leading "Free Nations". The Iraq war waged on a fiction by oilmen turned politicians, who not only used 9/11 as a trigger for war, but also as an excuse to savagely curtail the freedoms of it's own and it's allies citizens. The greedy rake off of the general populations wealth through the GFC, when not only did the financial hit squads strip many hard working people of everything through predatory lending practises, they then used their power to force the government to hand over billions more of the taxpayers money as a bail out. I see people struggling with the aftermath. I see the Bankers once again making obscene profits. Screwed both ways.
And there is the attack on the freedoms of the press and speech. Take the abysmal state of journalism and the rabid attacks on Wikileaks and Julian Assange. In a supposed "Democracy" the people have a right to know!!

Those that seek power over us, have conditioned our societies belief system. Through constant repetition and distortion they have us believe that the heartless brutality that emanates from our Fundamentalist Capitalism is necessary to maintain our "free" way of life with it's surfeit of useless "consumer goods". They blind us with morally bankrupt TV shows where greed and appalling behaviour are cheered on and promoted. They feed us on the bodies of mistreated animals and poisoned crops. They turn us into slaves with easy credit and conditioning to consume. They mine the labour of sweat shop slaves in foreign countries to not only make immense profits, but strip their own populations of security of wages and conditions.
It's this belief system that is the core problem of all our somewhat psycotic behavior. We have examples all throughout history and even today, of belief systems leading to extreme behaviours, both bizarre and destructive.

We need to decondition! Open our eyes!! Think for ourselves.


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Anonymous peter shelton 313 Sat, Jan 15 2011 04:32 CET

If you want a better world you to eduction of the people WikiLeaks is that eduction! USA has come you of the closet and say their values on people and true aims.

Anonymous enlapaz Sat, Jan 15 2011 04:22 CET

This is very important issue here, lets follow the trail and see where it leads. If it is open, it leads to truth. If it is hidden and secret it leads to lie and deception. The true danger is not whether governments can control Internet but bureaucracy can not change. It must come to end through silent revolution of individuals who truly understands the problems. Internet seems to be the tool we need to do this.

Anonymous enlapaz Sat, Jan 15 2011 04:05 CET

To jed; The issue here is USA and rest of the world bureaucrats including mainstream media that covering up genocide that is going on. USA has 800 military bases around the world out side of United States. Reckless imperial state who used Atomic bomb on civilians.

Anonymous FrankyNY Sat, Jan 15 2011 03:41 CET

Congrats to Tunisia!

Obama and Biden couldn’t remove this dictator. Wikileaks, though, DID play a role!

Celebrate!

Anonymous Shawn Sat, Jan 15 2011 03:18 CET

Actually, "jed" is wrong: credit card info is about CURRENT status. Cables are about PAST actions. Bullies and cowards always want to keep you from knowing about their past actions. And Yes divulging secret past actions is good journalism, and VERY GOOD historian-ism.

Anonymous jonathan Sat, Jan 15 2011 03:13 CET

eerr please re-edit your article.

It was USA and not UK that was involved in "collateral murder" video. THX.

Anonymous Tek Sat, Jan 15 2011 03:08 CET

I remember futurama cartoons,the pentagon as an open site for consulting evrythingh keep wikileaks search open and search some nuclear archives video

AnonymousmartinageoThu, Jan 13 2011 11:40 CET

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Преглед на профил Jeff.08 Sun, Jan 09 2011 17:40 CET

As the title seas secrecy is the problem, governments is the problem also the double dealing witch we are kept in the dark about, as the old adage goes keep them in the dark etc, etc,

Anonymous diggetyda Sat, Dec 25 2010 00:44 CET

I'd like to take this a little off-topic here and offer an observation. Reading these comments I had a realization that this is where the future is heading. Whether you are for or against the leaking of documents, whether you think Assange is a lying womanizer egomaniac or a hero on a quest for transparency, one thing is clear. That is that technology has now made it possible for citizens the world over to have a dialog on any given subject. This forum reminds me of what the debates in the local Roman towns would look like if they were [...]

Read the full comment digital. The town's people gathering together in the local meeting place, many outraged and with strong opinion, others merely curious as to what the fuss is all about. Some standing on the floor the entire time offering point and counterpoint, defending their position, conceding opinion here, changing an opinion of another there. Some chiming in from the back row when they can no longer hold in what they came to say, or have finally synthesized a way to communicate their perspective. Still others sharing personal stories that might add a human dimension to whatever is being discussed.

I have a lot of opinions on what is going on right now but what just struck me as maybe more important that this current story is the ability that we all have as members of the global community to find forums in which to speak our mind and be heard. I feel about this like my mother in law who is amazed that a package delivered from her house in Florida could arrive on our doorstep across the country 2 days later, but just the fact that we are all able to:

1. have access to this amount of information
2. search all over the Internet for stories related to, tangents, opinions, etc. and dig deeper into any aspect in further detail
3. hear opinions from people all over the world who are sharing their view on things, what the stories mean to them, their opinions and what impacts those opinions and
4. to be able to share your own stories, opinions, viewpoint

We can, as such, become veritable PhD's in almost any subject matter we have interest in. And that is powerful stuff.

I have traveled to many countries and lived in several different cultures. I've also studied many of the world religions and world philosophies. What strikes me most often is that what makes us different is a tiny fraction compared to what we all have in common as humans living on this planet. When a meeting occurs between two people from very divergent views and an honest dialogue ensues this invariably leads to a deeper understanding - not necessarily an agreement or changing of mind, but at least a better understanding of the logic and reasoning behind a particular viewpoint.

We all - you reading this, you wondering if you should reply to this, you thinking "what is this guy talking about", you thinking "yes, yes, isn't it amazing" - we are all taking part in something momentous. We are all participating in a global discussion, as citizens of the world, about this world. It is no longer only our leaders and those in power discussing these affairs for us.

We are taking part in a revolution towards omniscience and these are truly exciting times.

If I had one request to make it would be this: While it is much more comfortable to share ideas and thoughts with those who are of like mind it takes courage to do the same with those whose ideas are at odds with your own. I caught the tail end of the film "Ghandi" last night.

Ghandi was near death after fasting to protest the violence in the country between Hindus and Muslims. A group of Hindu men came to him to lay down their weapons and declare that they had vowed to never raise a hand in violence against a Muslim again. One man handed Ghandi a piece of bread and asked him to eat it saying "I am already going to hell, I don't want your blood on my hands too." Ghandi told him that only God decides who goes to heaven or hell. The man then tells him he is sure of going to hell explaining that he had killed a small Muslim child as an act of vengeance because his own son had been killed.
Ghandi told him that there was a way out of hell. He said "find yourself a boy, a boy around the same age as your son who was killed, a boy whose mother and father have been killed as a result of the violence, who has no family to take care of him. Find that boy and raise him as your own son", the man started walking away and Ghandi continued "only be sure that the boy is a Muslim, and you raise him as a Muslim".

Truth is all a matter of perspective and it needs no handle.

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Anonymous jed Thu, Dec 23 2010 20:53 CET

The real problem is people like Beckett who, with their air of prefessional respectability, give tacit support to people like Assange. Divulging secret information is not good journalism. It is reprehensible and done by bullies and cowards. Anyone who supports it has no morals and ethics. You cannot differentiate between spreading diplomatic emails and spreading someone’s credit card details.


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